Comments on: The Beer Sommelier http://apintofknowledge.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/the-beer-sommelier/ Dedicated to craft beer education and enjoyment! Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:56:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: keithpints http://apintofknowledge.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/the-beer-sommelier/#comment-12 keithpints Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:34:57 +0000 http://apintofknowledge.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/the-beer-sommelier/#comment-12 Thank you for your input and knowledge of beer history. What is interesting is that on Sinebrychoff's own website, they describe their Porter as "a dark unfiltered beer manufactured by using top fermentation." Top fermentation means an ale, not a lager. So, despite being a Porter brewed in Finnland, is this not a true Baltic Porter since it's not a lager? Well, I did a little more research on the topic, and found the following article on the topic: http://www.allaboutbeer.com/style/23.2-balticporter.html And this one quote sums it up: "Generally speaking, Slavic and Baltic breweries produce strong porters as bottom-fermented lagers that resemble bocks in strength and flavor. Scandinavian brewers use top fermentation and their porters retain the dark roasted malt character." So, apparently Baltic Porters can be either an ale or a lager depending on their country of origin. It's the only beer style I know of that can be either... but someone out there please correct me if I'm wrong! Thank you for your input and knowledge of beer history. What is interesting is that on Sinebrychoff’s own website, they describe their Porter as “a dark unfiltered beer manufactured by using top fermentation.” Top fermentation means an ale, not a lager. So, despite being a Porter brewed in Finnland, is this not a true Baltic Porter since it’s not a lager?

Well, I did a little more research on the topic, and found the following article on the topic:

http://www.allaboutbeer.com/style/23.2-balticporter.html

And this one quote sums it up:

“Generally speaking, Slavic and Baltic breweries produce strong porters as bottom-fermented lagers that resemble bocks in strength and flavor. Scandinavian brewers use top fermentation and their porters retain the dark roasted malt character.”

So, apparently Baltic Porters can be either an ale or a lager depending on their country of origin. It’s the only beer style I know of that can be either… but someone out there please correct me if I’m wrong!

]]> By: Joe http://apintofknowledge.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/the-beer-sommelier/#comment-11 Joe Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:34:35 +0000 http://apintofknowledge.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/the-beer-sommelier/#comment-11 "Definition: Baltic Porter A Porter is a dark, richly roasted ale that originated in England and is the grandfather of what we know today as Stout. A Baltic Porter is a more robust, higher alcohol (7% or more) version brewed to survive the sea voyage from England across the North Sea to the Baltics and Russia." That's untrue. Baltic Porters (the ones for which the original name Baltic Porter is applied to) are not ales. They are lagers. While obviously a porter is an ale Baltic Porters were local attempts to make English Porters and Stouts....and not beers shipped to the the region ala IPA and Imperial Stout. The locals had lager yeast availible so they got bottom fermented lagers. The name came to be applied specifically to the local attempts and not to the imports the way it was applied to IPA and Imperial Stout. There are many versions (especially in the US) of Baltic Porter that are ales, but the ones that define the style such as Aldaris, Okocim, Black Boss, Stepan Razin and Zwyiec...those are lagers and are the only true historical Baltic Porters. No lager Baltic Porters are really just Imperial or Double Porters. “Definition: Baltic Porter

A Porter is a dark, richly roasted ale that originated in England and is the grandfather of what we know today as Stout. A Baltic Porter is a more robust, higher alcohol (7% or more) version brewed to survive the sea voyage from England across the North Sea to the Baltics and Russia.”

That’s untrue. Baltic Porters (the ones for which the original name Baltic Porter is applied to) are not ales. They are lagers. While obviously a porter is an ale Baltic Porters were local attempts to make English Porters and Stouts….and not beers shipped to the the region ala IPA and Imperial Stout. The locals had lager yeast availible so they got bottom fermented lagers. The name came to be applied specifically to the local attempts and not to the imports the way it was applied to IPA and Imperial Stout.

There are many versions (especially in the US) of Baltic Porter that are ales, but the ones that define the style such as Aldaris, Okocim, Black Boss, Stepan Razin and Zwyiec…those are lagers and are the only true historical Baltic Porters. No lager Baltic Porters are really just Imperial or Double Porters.

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